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I thought a lot of folks out there could benefit from learning how to with introverted people.
I drove my ex crazy by being introverted. He thought that I was being "distant" and "purposely ignoring him as part of a passive-aggressive power play". Here I was just enjoying his company without talking.

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SolarBJF Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Me and my friends, Maddy and Jacky, were having fun with this trying to figure out which we were, introverts or extroverts. Me and Jacky ended up being a bit of both seeing as we don't care for being around other people so much but we feed off other peoples energy. Maddy ended up being a near full introvert. Me and Jacky were having fun with that sucking her energy away though hugs and squishes(I ended up with a head ache later). With this a picture appeared in my mind of Maddy in a solid ball and me and Jacky in kind of holy balls squishing her ball. Shortly after the mental image became a real picture and then became a role play between the three of us. It became our Guide to Understanding Invading an Introvert('s Personal Space).

Sorry for the epicly long message I just felt like telling you my Randomocity.
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HunterZero2 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm an introverted person for sure.
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Mage2902 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015  New member
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sharkplane77 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015
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sharkplane77 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015
^-^
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Sketch55 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014
If you are wondering if you are an introvert or extrovert (and no offence to RomanJones but there was something that was not mentioned) there is no such thing as a pure introvert or extrovert.  We like to put people into categories to try to figure each other out- if their shy or out going.  But their are different degrees of these categories, two people can be introverts but one could be an extreme introvert and the other can be a slight introvert; and I can say this because I am a border line extreme introvert.

Also it is possible to change the degree and it is possible to switch between introvert and extrovert; people can change, without a traumatic event in there life.  There are people that can be called introverts but talk to huge crowds of people for a living.  In short form one or two matching/conflicting characteristics do not define a persons character. 
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love-to-draw Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, it's a subject I've been kinda into lately :p
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love-to-draw Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, it's a subject I've been kinda into lately :p
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Getthegrooveon Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sounds like the truth to me XD
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LamLArts Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2014
Isn't it ; D
I remember you talked about these kind of things not to long ago. 
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A-bob Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It must be. I can understand why they do that(because they're issues aren't taken seriously) but it doesn't make it any less annoying when they have to emphasize their problems like their life is harder than anyone else's. I don't want to be rude to my friend, but I'm kind of looking forward to when our friendship dies. I'm not going to suddenly end our friendship, but I'm not really going to try to maintain it. Mostly because I've lost sympathy for him. He's always negative about everything, it's hard to be sympathetic to someone like that. So, yeah, I understand completely.

I simultaneously feel sorry for her and feel happy she got was she deserved. XD 

Must be. 
I can be sometimes. Texting arguments I usually do fairly well, but I'm a weak speaker. I'd never be able to have a face-to-face argument with someone I don't know. It's alright with people I do know, but that's more up in the air. I just hate being wrong. I know I should just drop things and accept when I'm wrong more often than I do. It's a flaw of mine I should work on. On the bright side, I bounce back from arguments well. I don't hold grudges.
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MegaLoler Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know if I'm introverted or extroverted.. maybe a bit of both? o-o

I LOVE being around people, and I get sad for a while when I have to leave a group of people.  Sounds extroverted?
Well I'm usually not outgoing around these people at all.. in fact I'm one of the shyest people I have ever seen in my whole life.  I NEVER talk unless spoken to. (but I love talking when I am spoken too!)  Sounds introverted?
Another thing... despite being rediculously quiet and reserved, I have intense desires to befriend everybody I spend even a little bit of time with and I want to be really energetic and outgoing (but I don't because I'm too shy)  Sounds extroverted?
However... I much prefer the idea of being really good friends with a small number of people rather than being okay friends with a huge number of people... Sounds introverted?

Extroverted, introverted, extroverted, introverted... o_o

The only time I don't actually want to be around people is when I'm super busy with a project that's sucking away all of my attention span, in which case it's just because I'm busy.  That or the people are mean... but I seriously like almost anybody!
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Tealinia93 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wonder if that's a common thing amongst people with social issues like that; acting like they're the only ones allowed to have problems because they're "worse" or whatever. Kinda makes you lose sympathy for those people. No wonder social issues aren't really taken seriously, though. My ex friend would always roll her eyes at my issues and try to say hers were worse, or mine weren't the same, and all that. I eventually just stopped feeling sorry for her because I felt that she simply didn't deserve it. She certainly wasn't appreciating it, at any rate.
But the awesome thing is that karma continues to bite her in the butt for being a traitor and being so selfish. :)

Must be those repelling poles, lol.
You're pretty good at arguing. xD
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A-bob Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Most likely. I just have a hard time letting other people have the last word. It would always drive my mom nuts when my sister and I got into an argument.

That makes sense. I wish people would have understood you more, it probably would have helped a lot. I have a friend who likes to complain about his life and it's hard to sympathize with him when he turns things toward his bad situation whenever I complain about something in my life. I had to learn not to trust him with my feelings. With him, it feels like I'm not allowed to have social anxiety problems because his social anxiety is worse or something like that. So I can understand that it's frustrating when your ex friend acted like she was the only one allowed to be shy.

True enough. It think it's a good thing, despite it being part of what caused our argument. 
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RomanJones Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
You're welcome! And thank you!!
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Tealinia93 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, believe me, I'm ridiculously stubborn too. That's probably why this went on as long as it did.

But yeah, the understanding thing isn't really an issue for me. The sympathy part is, though. It's hard for me to pass sympathy out, since I never got any with my own situation. But I guess that's because my whole family is more extroverted while I'm more introverted, and my ex friend thought she was the only one allowed to be shy in crowds or whatever. Blah...

It sounds like you and I aren't so different. We obviously both have strong feelings about..well, our feelings, lol.
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A-bob Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I still don't like that, but I'm going to let it drop. I need to learn to be less stubborn sometimes.

Yeah, I can understand that. People will just lash out in whatever ways they can, whether or not they realize how the message comes across. 
I don't mind listening, don't worry about it. Your problem with your friend sound basically like friends not quite understanding each other. I don't have that problem since my best friend and I are so similar. Taking both sides isn't bad, since you do have a bit of both worlds, but I guess it can put you in an interesting spot that's difficult to understand since people tend to group others into 'introvert' and 'extrovert,' and that can cause problems for people who don't necessarily fit into either category. Learning I was an introvert helped me because people kept telling me I had to have more fun and go to school dances, but those things weren't really what I wanted to do and nobody seemed to understand that. Maybe if you could find something that was geared more toward understanding those people with the 'both complex,' it would help you feel more understood like learning I was introvert did for me.

I can understand that now. This all makes more sense now that I know you aren't as much of an introvert as I initially thought you were. Understanding people is difficult, especially when they act different in different situations. Which was probably part of your problem. It happens to me sometimes too, I have slightly different personalities depending on who I am with. Earlier, you said something about there being no absolute introvert or extrovert, and that's completely true. People and personalities are so complicated because of that. If everything was as simple as pure extrovert or introvert, we probably wouldn't have been arguing in the first place. 

I'm really glad we're not arguing about this anymore. Most arguments I have end on a bad note because there's either a misunderstanding, or I'm too stubborn to let the other person get the last word. Most of the time though, I avoid conflict.
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Crimson-Leviathan Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
This is beautiful piece of work you have made and explains introverts (me) very accurately. Thank you for this!

Now for me to never show this to others..
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Tealinia93 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I prefer to think of it as evening the insult score for the side that otherwise can't argue for itself because it isn't present.

And, you know what, I need to apologize too. Reading back, I did sound demanding and insensitive, but I guess that's what happens when you feel hurt.
The only reason I even get upset at introvert/extrovert junk, (and you probably really don't care about this, but I'm telling it anyway), is because my ex-best friend, (she betrayed me in a really bad way, but that's another story), used to claim to be severely introverted all the time, largely due to social anxiety, and she used to try to tell me I was extroverted simply because I didn't freak out over being in crowded places like she did. Yet, whenever I'd sit and be quiet and just watch and listen, (as introverts tend to do), she'd look at me and ask if there was something wrong. It wasn't really even an issue of introvert understanding extrovert, it was like...introverts not understanding each other, I guess. So, as your articles suggested, I made myself more extroverted to fit what I believed my then best friend thought I was, which is why I take both sides. I feel one way, yet had to live up to the other. Eventually just accepted it as a "both complex," I guess.

So now, whenever understanding debates and blah come up, it really grinds my gears because..bad experience. In my world, understanding and trying to teach understanding was impossible and tedious because I always had someone near me who claimed that their way was THE way of that personality, and if you weren't up to par with that, you simply weren't in that category.
I think it makes me upset because it seems very...black and white in this comic. Not all introverts are super quiet and junk, (or even get energy drained like that as it claims), and not all extroverts are just, "omg let me talk to you forever" social butterflies. It's actually kind of misleading and only applies to a small group of either side. 'Cause, I mean really, someone can be introverted, yet still know how to take care of business in a public setting. And someone can be extroverted, yet still get choked up and quiet if they feel embarrassed in public or whatever.

It's not black and white because, like you said, personalities are so complicated, and probably shouldn't be treated as such.
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A-bob Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hypocrisy is not fairness no matter what way you throw it.

You had began by saying you were an aggressive introvert, so it felt as if you were trying to defend a group of people who were the exact opposite of you when they didn't need you to defend them. Now that you're calling yourself someone more balanced(disregarding the inconsistency), I can understand better. However, I don't think this comic really applies to more balanced people as much, since they have characteristics of both. It's just different than being an introvert or being an extrovert. So the differences in our views with this may boil down to something like this: You view this comic as saying there is something wrong with both introverts and extroverts; most introverts probably view it as saying there is nothing wrong with them, they just associate with people differently; extroverts might view it as saying that introverts aren't stuck-up loners, they just associate with people differently.

I still don't feel like it was polite of you to tell the artist to make another comic because you had an issue with it. You might have just wanted a second comic, but it felt demanding. I've had people demand I take a request I made for them off dA because it wasn't exactly to their liking and demand one slightly different, and stuff like that doesn't sit well with me. 

Can I say sorry? I got defensive because it felt like you were saying introverts don't deserve people to be considerate to them every now and then because introverts are just selfish, stuck-up loners while extroverts are saints that don't need to understand introverts. So when it came across that way, I felt like I had to prove that it was more balanced than what you seemed to be saying. Hence my emphasis on 'both' and 'understand.'
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Tealinia93 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Call it whatever you want, but it's fairness, not hypocrisy.

Then let me have my opinion and leave it alone. It's ridiculous, the lengths you're going to to try to prove me wrong when there is nothing to prove. I'm balanced between introversion and extroversion, and I've been offended. I feel like half of me has been called annoying, and the other half has been called helpless. That's the end of it. Why is that so hard to understand?
You can throw facts at me all you want, but you won't change how I feel.
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A-bob Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Both are not from the same author. One is by Jenna Goudreau, who referenced Cain, and the other is by Vanessa Barford. Further, it talked about how introverts have to make themselves 'more extrovert,' in a sense, because that's the way society works; the main focus was not about genders.

You were being hypocritical. Saying, "Introverts have got to be the most selfish people on the planet" and then going off and telling everyone else you should not refer to extroverts as "obnoxious energy-suckers" while saying the comic is biased because it makes one side look bad is hypocritical. Defending the other side should never involved bringing the other side down. 

I do understand you feel this comic is insulting. But you feel it's insulting to somebody other than yourself as if you can accurately represent them. What if no extroverts found this insulting? Then all you are doing is getting insulted on somebody else's behalf when it isn't necessary. You also stated the comic helped no one as if it were fact, yet an extrovert 
(Kira-kitty15) commented  saying, "Yes! This has helped me and my boyfriend understand each other that one step further. Me = Extrovert, Him = Introvert." And another user(Uzaji-chan) said, "My friend is the introvert and im the extrovert. I'M A VAMPIRE THAT SUCKS ALL HAPPINESSS!!!! But I give some too! Sometimes... Not really. But yeah, this is MY FRIEND. EXACTLY LIKE MY FRIEND. but she's a girl. she did find me annoying at first because i seemed really pushy and annoying and i didn't really give her any space and this guide really helps me understand her more. thank you! :3 but after awhile she got used to it and she started being pushy and annoying too lol" So saying it is insulting really doesn't do you much good when an extrovert, one of the people you are trying to defend because the comic is "insulting," is not insulted in the least but is actually grateful for it. It helped an extrovert understand why an introvert appeared to be too quiet or anti-social or a stuck-up loner. 
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autumnlatte Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yes! :highfive:
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Murachacha Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I will not say the world needs more people like you,
but it definitely needs more people with this kind of mindset!

You would surely make a perfect teacher! :)
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Tealinia93 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay, your first link is more about gender, and these are both from the same author, more specifically the opinion</> of one person. Since you don't take mine seriously, I will not take Cain's seriously.

And I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm just evening out what this comic said by defending the other side.
You don't seem to get that I feel that this comic is insulting. To both sides, but more so to extroverts.
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rAndoMCitIzen12 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  Student General Artist
that's awesome!! INTP's make up about 3% of the population

so it's a rare gem meeting another rare gem!Llama Emoji 25 (Mah Sexy Cheeks) [V2] 
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rAndoMCitIzen12 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  Student General Artist
you're welcome!

I like to thrive in anything educational or in things that broaden my knowledge about the world and the people... You could even say I live solely for the purpose of learning :iconcutiesmileplz:
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A-bob Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is about personality. Intro/extroversion is a major component of personality. How does that fact alone equate that a guide isn't necessary. Have you even taken psychology? Personality is a very complex concept, so categorizing and understanding personality types is very helpful in psychology. If you can't understand that, then don't claim to.
I just told you, the comic is meant to help people understand introverts based on one introvert's experiences. I defend this comic because you don't seem to understand that it is not about making anyone look better than the other. Extroverts get energy from socializing, introverts do not.  Extroverts need to socialize, introverts need alone time to recharge. It literally says that. This is not an issue about pity, it only explained the differences. And pointing out how you seem to be suggesting extroverts can't handle things is not me suggesting any time of pity is needed. Never at any time did I say introverts were better and never at any time did I say extroverts were better. I did not say introverts were incapable of handling the fact some people will not like them. But wouldn't it be nice for people to understand why you are such a stuck-up loner? I said before, the majority of people are extroverts. Extroverts generally don't need to explain to people why they like to socialize. Since you didn't believe me when I said the world is tailored for extroverts, link link

I didn't say your opinion is wrong, I just said it wasn't your place to demand something from the artist because you had an issue with the comic. It is very insulting and disrespectful.
For the record, it wouldn't be the same. The artist is not an extrovert, so making a comic from the opposite perspective wouldn't have the same type of personal experience to back it up. How can you not understand that? It is one thing to understand another group of people, it is another to tell people how to interact with a group of people you don't belong to. It would be like me saying you shouldn't let a Jew eat pork. I can understand eating pork is against their beliefs, but I have no place telling you what you should restrict from that Jew when the Jew perfectly capable of saying so themselves. Does that make me hypocritical for saying you shouldn't let a Jew eat pork? No, not really. 
If you want a comic like this for extroverts, find one made by an extrovert.
It is hypocritical of you to say this comic makes one side look bad, then proceed to make one look better by making the other look bad. That has been the entire basis of your argument, that introverts are 'the most selfish people' and extroverts are 'kind and caring.' So don't give me that pile of hypocrisy.
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Kira-kitty15 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes! This has helped me and my boyfriend understand each other that one step further.

Me = Extrovert
Him = Introvert

So that you! :heart:
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RomanJones Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you!
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Tealinia93 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Arguing that the issue is personality-based just means there is no need for a guide like this in the first place. I'm saying that it's a biased generalization that takes sides and makes one side look like better people than the other. And when you say extroverts can handle that revelation, the fact that you defend this comic supports the idea that you believe introverts cannot; that they are not emotionally strong enough to handle the idea that people don't like them because they act stuck up. You're contradicting yourself telling me it's not a pity issue for that reason.

And it's not your place to sit and tell me my opinion is wrong.
And, for the record, a comic for extroverts SHOULDN'T be biased from an introverted perspective because the idea is to teach understanding, is it not? Well, if the artist wants people to understand her, yet she, in turn, can't understand the other side, this comic is a great big pile of hypocrisy.
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ShadowDancerBrony Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014
Beautifully explained.
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A-bob Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You said way more than just "the comic is one-sided and there should be another." Problem with your argument, you said the comic was putting introverts on a pedestal and saying to treat them special when it says no such thing. It does not say to look at introverts with pity of any sort, just to understand and be considerate. This comic is only a way to help understand introverts. It is not a 100% accurate representation of all introverts. Some introverts are outgoing and some extroverts can be shy around new people. Personality is far more complex that you seem to believe. Also, by the way you've commented, I'm getting the impression you don't think extroverts are emotionally strong enough to handle the idea that some people mind think they are energy-suckers. They can handle the revelation that not everyone will like them. 

You can't just demand a comic for extroverts, it's not your place. That is for the artist to decide and the artist only. Besides, I feel it would be biased for this artist to make a comic about living with extroverts since this comic was made primarily for extroverts from an introvert point of view. Being able to switch the point of view from introvert to extrovert and make a comic of a similar nature isn't very feasible. So if you want a comic from the opposite point of view, look one up elsewhere.
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bsm9199 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well then, I'm an introvert! Heh.
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Black-Angel-Dan Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Student Writer
Legal institutions to a large degree are founded upon Kantarian principles, though, so that makes this quite funny. But then again, even the state agrees you shouldn't help a robber though it holds truth as an absolute.

"Rules are already set" - which rules? There isn't any reason to believe at all that there is a certain set of "rules" to life. Quite the contrary. I hope you're not trying to explain the world with religion just now and I am just misunderstanding the implication of that phrase.

Actually, more often than not people are unaware of underlying emotions. It's part of the reason why their own subconscious is near impossible for someone to figure out.
In other words: never ever are we truly aware of our emotions, their sources and meanings.

Also, for a very good reason one says that offence is taken, not given. Everyone defines offence differently, making it completely impossible to create a rudimentary guideline of what is offensive and what isn't. What may be "the most offensive shit imagineable" to someone doesn't even brush against someone else. Imagine two people singing and you tell them they suck at it. Who knows if they are aware of this and just sing for the heck of it, if they're learning or not.

Implying someone is deliberately offensive is half a travesty. Unless you have a very good reason to believe it (e.g. the person is well aware you take offence to that kind of statement). It basically is the difference between deduction and induction.
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DemonFoxProductions Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
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I don't HATE socializing with people I don't know...
I find it intimidating. I get sick, and sweaty...
(though I don't mind it if people watch me draw)

it's the primary reason I can't voice chat to people I want to chat to over Skype.

I stammer a lot... prefer writing over talking.

I hate parties because
1. loud music... can't hear my voice cuz it's so loud.
2. they're BORING!! I hate dancing, so all I do at parties is sit in a corner and draw.
3. I burn out a lot faster than others... even when I'm not dancing.

plus the fact that I get anxious around people I don't know... 

though I don't mind traditional Irish music sessions with my family...
prfer a small group than big parties.


I like big cities because there are many things you can do...
and the big music shop in Dublin.... ah...
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Murachacha Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
You are probably just a person who "hates" socializing with people you don't know, and that's perfectly ok :)

The fact that you love doing your own art, having no problem going to the city ect. speaks more for a completely healthy mindset of booth, intro- and extroverted features.
While there is no such thing as a TRUE introvert or a TRUE extrovert, because this is highly situational, you might lean more towards a perceiving than acting character.
It's not rare that people mix these with intro- or extroverted. One is a shifting state your brain is in, the other is something that defines you as a person.

From the way you wrote, it seems you are not very happy with your current character. I hope I'm misinterpreting things. Otherwise, I hope you won't stress yourself about stupid definitions like intro- or extrovert.
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Murachacha Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
This is very nice. People like you really make me want to write a book about it :) 
Thanks.
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Murachacha Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
You're right. Every stimuli you get can potentially shift your brainwaves. With music, it's pretty strong because you passively enhance the effects by letting your sensory input, what you hear, slip to an emotional state to perceive. It is unclear even for neuro-scientists how this process works.

With binaural beats, for example, you can actively tune the spectrum of brainwaves produced. No as much as most esoteric people claim it to be, but it works.
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Murachacha Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
You are completely right.

This is more meant towards people who consider others extro/introvert for the wrong reasons.

I'm always called an extrovert because I love talking and lecturing people in a very energetic manner. 
Which, of course, is a something not everyone can stand. But what they don't see is that I'm completely calm on the inside 99% of the time.
I'm completely in the middle of things, but others always consider this extrovert.
This wouldn't be all that bad, but it brings up some very annoying stereotypes.
And that's what I think is wrong. They define extroverts as "not as intelligent" and "annoying" while introverts are "antisocial" or "losers".
This comes from booth sides. Introverts, talking down to extroverts because they think they are much more intelligent and classy, and extroverts thinking they are much cooler because they have more friends and go to party's more often.
But this are not skills that fall intro the spectrum of an introvert vs. extrovert debate. In reality, these are archetypes defined by a group of people, not knowing that they identify so much with a term, that they just favor opinions from others that fall into their archetype, and devalue the ones from their counterpart. And that's not how defining a character works. In fact, it's so complicated you would have to study biology, neuroscience, psychology and a lot of other things to just have a marginal understanding of the complexity of the human character.

Sorry for talking so deep into this, but it's a subject that I really love, and as that, I nearly value it to a philosophic point.
Like I said, you are completely right, but what I wrote was not targeted against anyone in person, just a little rable :)
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TheAntsaBoy94 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The only thing we always know better than others is the exact magnitude of our feelings at any given moment. We still need to actually figure out its meaning and origins, just like any outsider (i.e. anyone who isn't you) would. This is because humans did not create themselves; the rules are already set, we can only choose our playstyle.

If good intentions covered everything, then I suppose one could say the most offensive shit imagineable after "No offence, but..." and get way with it. We all know that is not true.
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love3509 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014
Very interesting. However, instead of saying this person is a more-or-less-calm-anti-social-person-who-enjoys-their-own-time, it is easier to say introvert, yes? I am what is considered an introvert - and we all know that we're not 100% one or the other. I do not enjoy stranger's company, but I do actually have friends (whom I usually enjoy to be around) and everyone here is the same. It's just...nice...not to be called anti-this and anti-that, ya know? Being called an introvert just seems more positive. But I digress. I learnt something, but I think that the artist's definition is someone who leans, more or less, towards an introverted state is an introvert.

As for the energy, I thought that was what he meant, since I'm anti-social and pretty much feel dead after talking to random people (in real life, not online which is kinda strange but a conversation for another day ^.^). I could rant on FOREVER about this, because I am very passionate about this subject.
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Black-Angel-Dan Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Student Writer
Kant would strongly disagree, especially with that last sentence.
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Tealinia93 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then you're basically just agreeing with the first thing I said.
All I ever said was that this comic is one-sided and there needs to be one made for extroverts.
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A-bob Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You obviously have not understood a single thing I told you. I never said extroverts were oppressive, I never even implied it. I did not glorify introverts, not once. I clearly emphasized that both can be jerks and both can be good. Introversion/extroversion does not determine whether somebody is a good person or is a jerk. I said both need to understand each other. I have said multiple times both introverts and extroverts need to adjust themselves so there can be balance. Neither needs to drastically change, but both need to adjust. How many times do I need to repeat the same thing to you?
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Tealinia93 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Meanwhile, you're over there making it sound like extroverts are the most oppressive people on the planet, by extension glorifying introverts. You never mentioned how introverts should adjust themselves, just that they'll do it when they want if they feel comfortable.
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Uzaji-chan Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!~ She moved away though... and I'm all alone....
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artangel-demon Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Student General Artist
Yup. What he said
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A-bob Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hardly. The majority of people are extroverts, so I'm not speaking out of ignorance here. I have emphasized "understand" multiple times and you keep translating that into "cater" or "force." No, extroverts just need to understand introverts, but introverts also need to understand extroverts so there can be a balance. Now many times to I have to say this? They both need to be considerate to the other. It's not that difficult to understand. 

Now you are sounding ignorant. It's great that extroverts want to make introverts feel like they belong, but misunderstanding why they are being quiet is a result of, big shocker, not understanding. So it comes back to the fact that this comic is meant to outline how to understand basic introvert tendencies. You sort of just proved my point.

Introverts are generally nice, caring people once you get to know them. People as a whole are generally nice and caring. It's not extroverts alone that are that way. There are also extroverts that are jerks; there are also introverts that are jerks; in general, there are people that are jerks and that is not necessarily determined by introversion or extroversion. Extroverts don't socialize because they are nice and caring, they socialize because that's what they like to do. They like being with people and talking. You keep glorifying extroverts as if they're the epitome of human goodness and shouldn't have to adjust themselves to be considerate to introverts. Not the case at all. Again, both introverts and extroverts need to understand each other and adjust themselves.

Maybe if you would read the artist's comments, you would have understood that already. The title also said how to live with introverts. I would have thought that kind of implies living with people you know.
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love3509 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
What I love...is that I now know I'm not one of a few. There are so many amazing introverts out there ^.^ This comic is amazingly acurate and...just amazing! To see people and knowing their introverts is BEAUTIFUL! xD
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